Monday, July 21, 2008

Those Who Can, Do...


and those who can't...

Most of us have heard this and know how it ends. I have known my share of teachers, and I beg to differ. Those who can't, go into politics.

I'm still playing catch-up on things. Check this out.

Monique Davis has been chastised for her comments, and has apologized. That's nice. A politician will say anything. That's what they do. I want to peel a couple more layers off this onion and look at it two more ways. I want to address how she said what she said, and ponder why she said it.

" I don’t know what you have against God, but some of us don’t have much against him."

This comes from that standard shovel-full of bullshit that smarmy preachers jam down the throats of their congregations. "Atheists don't really disbelieve in Jehovamagod, they're just mad at HIM." No, we really think IT is the product of some really creative and insideous bullshit.

"We look forward to him and his blessings."

Yes, we know. This is how the scam works. You look forward to your reward, and then you die and no one has to pay up.

"And it’s really a tragedy -- it’s tragic -- when a person who is engaged in anything related to God, they want to fight. They want to fight prayer in school. I don’t see you (Sherman) fighting guns in school. You know?"


This is a false analogy of sorts, as well as a fallacy of an undistributed middle. Nobody is arguing in favor of guns in school. There are laws against guns in school, and laws governing prayer in school. The differences are that prayer in school is not illegal, and the faculty and staff are not known to willfully disregard the laws against guns.

"I’m trying to understand the philosophy that you want to spread in the state of Illinois. "


This is a false statement, as can be demonstrated by her subsequent remarks. She has already reached her conclusions. It is either rhetorical, delusional, or a deliberate lie.


"This is the Land of Lincoln."


At first glance this looks like a non sequitur. It’s a non sequitur that has been carefully loaded up with jingoistic meaning and fired off repeatedly over the years. One, two, three, KNEE-JERK!

“This is the Land of Lincoln where people believe in God, …”

This is also the land of the Illinois, who were pushed off their land through worthless treaties, chicanery, hostage taking, and other immoral acts. It’s the land where people also believe in Vishnu, Brahman, Muhammad, the Earth Mother, and Adolph Hitler. Ms. Davis isn’t talking about those people because they aren’t part of the social/religious/political hierarchy who were conned into electing this manipulating D student of history and humanity. She is only interested in stroking the fragile egos of those who have been taught to both fear and scorn the ones who don’t believe exactly what they have been taught to believe. You know, the Marks of the Christian White Man Scam.

“… where people believe in protecting their children.… “

As opposed to what fucking planet where parents don’t have this instinct? No one in history ever ate their own babies as a cultural norm… and oh yeah, “Won’t someone please think about THE CHILDREN?”

“What you have to spew and spread is extremely dangerous, it’s dangerous—“

Nice word, “spew”. Especially from someone who is spewing out a bunch of emotional appeal, very short on reasoning and logic… and proof for what is being asserted. This is the sentence that proves the one that starts, “I’m trying to understand… “ is false.

“It’s dangerous to the progression of this state. And it’s dangerous for our children to even know that your philosophy exists! Now you will go to court to fight kids to have the opportunity to be quiet for a minute. But damn if you’ll go to [court] to fight for them to keep guns out of their hands. I am fed up! Get out of that seat!”

I think you mean “progress” Ms. Davis. And, shouldn’t “state” be capitalized, as in the State of Mandatory Ideology you and your kind want to create? Manufacturing false outrage might get you elected, but it also creates the kind of prejudice that divides the common man, and keeps control-freaks like you in control. This is the “progress” you would have us believe you are supporting, the status quo. The only danger to “our” children, is the risk that they will not become blind followers, and will be socially ostracized (as you are attempting to do here) because of it. Once again, nobody is talking about guns right now but you.


If you are fed up, why don’t you get up and leave you posturing jackass? You know why, and so do I.

“You have no right to be here! We believe in something. You believe in destroying! You believe in destroying what this state was built upon.”

Thank you for explaining your version of someone else’s beliefs. I’m sure your version is more in line with what your follower friends want to believe. I always say, “If you want to know what an atheist is all about, ask a Christian.” Good thing you don’t have the final word on who has rights. Oh wait….

8 Comments:

At 7:30 PM, Blogger Kalanchoe542 said...

Holy crap. Don't you just love all the bullsh*t, though. It's open minds like this that have brought us so far on the road to real progress and understanding.....oh wait.....

I think it's really true that God was created in man's image.

 
At 4:07 AM, Blogger vjack said...

Wow, you're just now getting to this story? On the upside, I hope your post will remind everyone that Rep. Davis faced no consequences for her bigotry. Makes me mad all over again.

 
At 5:08 AM, Blogger handmaiden said...

Very good analysis.

A politician will say anything. That's what they do.

I am very seriously considering going into politics at a local level. I'm wondering if I will be willing to say anything at some point?
My plan so far is to run an honest campaign.
But, obviously there is a lot of pitfalls along the way.

Maybe, not being endorsed by God will actually be an asset?

 
At 7:31 PM, Blogger breakerslion said...

kalanchoe 542: Welcome back. Yes, I just love the manipulative bullshit that masquerades as substance in so many "impassioned speeches."

vjack: Yeah, I have been a bit busy. I noticed this, and a few other things in the past 12 weeks, but I'm just now getting around to addressing them. I didn't just let it pass for two reasons: my analysis is valid and not time dependent, and those with short memories can use a little reminding. In my opinion, this woman has no business running as a Democrat, and the Democratic Party has no business whoring itself just because she is electable, if that's what they're doing. I think she's a Republican plant.

handmaiden: See, "The Seduction of Joe Tynan

 
At 3:09 AM, Blogger DB said...

This woman is an embarrassment to progressive values. The problem with her statements are that they are allowed to be said. Like vjack said, she got off scott-free. Sure, she might have gotten a lot of emails (including one from me) but short of that, her bigotry continues to exist. Such a shame.

Good luck Handmaiden if you run. Someday I will be running for something (post-career) and hopefully the climate for atheists has cooled by then.

 
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At 8:19 AM, Blogger Donnnnn said...

She's right!
It is dangerous to the establishment...'Good Lord' what if the next generation finds out that they can THINK for themselves and not have to follow traditionalism..I mean really, straighten up and fly right son..and for gawdsake don't forget the motto of the modern American Politician,

"because that's why"

 
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